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Re: [TYPO3] Lack of tt_news

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  #1  
Alt 13.03.2008, 10:16
Christopher Schnell
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Hello all,

Some more thoughts on how it might be possible to improve documentation
for extensions:

With a colleague of mine, I had the idea to build up a "basic review
team". This team would review every new uploaded extension manually on:
* Weather it has a manual
* If the manual is useful
* If the source code is compliant with the T3 coding guidelines

Based on that review there could be a new flag in TER, something like
"Approved by QA Team". This has nothing to do with the work of the
security team, which is much harder.

Based on this approval, it would be easier to decide for users, which
ext is worth considering. Additionally, there could be a second checkbox
in the EM to only display results that are approved. So we would have
three steps: "unreviewed/unapproved", "passed basic review" and "passed
security review".

What do you think?

Regards,
Christopher.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: typo3-english-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
[mailto:typo3-english-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de] Im Auftrag von
Dmitry Dulepov [typo3]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2008 18:04
An: typo3-english (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
Betreff: Re: [TYPO3] Documentation nightmare

Hi!

virgil huston wrote:
> At TCON07 I basically volunteered to be Doc Team lead and what has

resulted
> so far is some internal talking with mainly Daniel Brussler. I am

thinking
> that Daniel is the de facto Doc Team leader now and that is fine, he

does a
> very good job with the wiki. In any case, I plan on trying to get some
> things going and I know Daniel will be supportive.


Excellent news! Feel free to contact me with questions about core if it
is for documentation writing. I cannot promise same minute response but
you will definitely get the answer withing a week (normally withing a
day). I feel that doc team needs real support from the core people!

--
Dmitry Dulepov
TYPO3 core team
Web: http://typo3bloke.net/
Skype: callto:liels_bugs
"Nothing is impossible. There are only limits to our knowledge"
_______________________________________________
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Hello all,

Some more thoughts on how it might be possible to improve documentation
for extensions:

With a colleague of mine, I had the idea to build up a "basic review
team". This team would review every new uploaded extension manually on:
* Weather it has a manual
* If the manual is useful
* If the source code is compliant with the T3 coding guidelines

Based on that review there could be a new flag in TER, something like
"Approved by QA Team". This has nothing to do with the work of the
security team, which is much harder.

Based on this approval, it would be easier to decide for users, which
ext is worth considering. Additionally, there could be a second checkbox
in the EM to only display results that are approved. So we would have
three steps: "unreviewed/unapproved", "passed basic review" and "passed
security review".

What do you think?

Regards,
Christopher.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: typo3-english-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
[mailto:typo3-english-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de] Im Auftrag von
Dmitry Dulepov [typo3]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2008 18:04
An: typo3-english (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
Betreff: Re: [TYPO3] Documentation nightmare

Hi!

virgil huston wrote:
> At TCON07 I basically volunteered to be Doc Team lead and what has

resulted
> so far is some internal talking with mainly Daniel Brussler. I am

thinking
> that Daniel is the de facto Doc Team leader now and that is fine, he

does a
> very good job with the wiki. In any case, I plan on trying to get some
> things going and I know Daniel will be supportive.


Excellent news! Feel free to contact me with questions about core if it
is for documentation writing. I cannot promise same minute response but
you will definitely get the answer withing a week (normally withing a
day). I feel that doc team needs real support from the core people!

--
Dmitry Dulepov
TYPO3 core team
Web: http://typo3bloke.net/
Skype: callto:liels_bugs
"Nothing is impossible. There are only limits to our knowledge"
_______________________________________________
TYPO3-english mailing list
TYPO3-english (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/.../typo3-english

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  #2  
Alt 13.03.2008, 10:20
Christopher Schnell
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Hi Georg,

the company, I work in, is willing to sponsor as well. As I am not to
decide how much we will sponsor, I cannot say a number, but you can
count on it. Give me some days.

Christopher.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: typo3-english-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
[mailto:typo3-english-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de] Im Auftrag von Georg
Ringer
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2008 17:39
An: typo3-english (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
Betreff: Re: [TYPO3] Lack of tt_news

Hi,

thanks to all for your very positive feedback - I really appreciate it!

I will take a short look at this tomorrow how much work this will be.

Morten Kjems wrote:
> Would this solution mean that one could put any known content element in
> a news item? Also FCEs, metadata etc. ?


not meta data because we are talking about content.
I don't know any FCE but maybe some others know..

Georg
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  #3  
Alt 13.03.2008, 10:30
Dmitry Dulepov [typo3]
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Hi!

Christopher Schnell wrote:
> Some more thoughts on how it might be possible to improve documentation
> for extensions:
>
> With a colleague of mine, I had the idea to build up a "basic review
> team". This team would review every new uploaded extension manually on:
> * Weather it has a manual
> * If the manual is useful
> * If the source code is compliant with the T3 coding guidelines
>
> Based on that review there could be a new flag in TER, something like
> "Approved by QA Team". This has nothing to do with the work of the
> security team, which is much harder.
>
> Based on this approval, it would be easier to decide for users, which
> ext is worth considering. Additionally, there could be a second checkbox
> in the EM to only display results that are approved. So we would have
> three steps: "unreviewed/unapproved", "passed basic review" and "passed
> security review".
>
> What do you think?


Great idea! I think someone tried to organize ext reviews but this initiative is dead as well. So you may pick it up But be sure that you really can do it: it can be over 100 exts uploaded daily.

--
Dmitry Dulepov
TYPO3 core team
Web: http://typo3bloke.net/
Skype: callto:liels_bugs
"Nothing is impossible. There are only limits to our knowledge"
_______________________________________________
TYPO3-english mailing list
TYPO3-english (AT) lists (DOT) netfielders.de
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  #4  
Alt 13.03.2008, 10:58
Andreas Becker
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Hi Georg

could you please setup a tt_news renewal project page so we could collect
there the sponsors and also all account informations and other stuff about
this project. Otherwise I guess threads get mixed up here to soon and
perhaps get lost.

Thanks

Andi
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  #5  
Alt 13.03.2008, 11:19
Georg Ringer
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Hi Andi,

I just set up a project page: http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgnewsce.html

Please add your comments & suggestions there!

Georg
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