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[TYPO3] Social Portal Project planning: TYPO3 vs Drupal

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Alt 18.08.2008, 12:51
Thomas Meixner
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Hello list,

I hope you had a good weekend.

I will have to decide for a project which can be described as a "social
portal" and offers certain Facebook functionality whether TYPO3 or
Drupal is the right tool for the job.
I have experience with TYPO3 (>10 sites) but none with Drupal.

If anyone with experience in both or for a similar project could post
their opinion/advice I would be grateful. Also if anyone knows a similar
project in TYPO3 for my research I would be thankful.

The key requirements are:
* Events can be created by FE users and other FE users can subscribe to
and receive notification for Events.
* Events can be searched and listed by category or date

* User profiles: visibility private and public, relations to other users
(block profile, buddy)
* Integrated forum
* Blog linked to the Events as review


In TYPO3 my take would be tt_news, the cal extension for events and the
mm_forum which I haven't tried yet but which seems to be very powerful.

I see problems arising with the relationship between user profiles which
I haven't seen on a TYPO3 site yet
Also I have never seen an implementation of the subscription feature of
the cal apart from a description in the manual.

Personally I feel like having to make a decision whether I prefer
banging my head against some of the biggest TYPO3 extensions or learn a
new CMS from scratch ...

I already found this site which meets most of our requirements in Drupal
(German
http://www.yoci.de


Regards,
Thomas Meixner

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Alt 18.08.2008, 15:03
bernd wilke
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on Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:51:28 +0200, Thomas Meixner wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I hope you had a good weekend.
>
> I will have to decide for a project which can be described as a "social
> portal" and offers certain Facebook functionality whether TYPO3 or
> Drupal is the right tool for the job. I have experience with TYPO3 (>10
> sites) but none with Drupal.
>
> If anyone with experience in both or for a similar project could post
> their opinion/advice I would be grateful. Also if anyone knows a similar
> project in TYPO3 for my research I would be thankful.
>
> The key requirements are:
> * Events can be created by FE users and other FE users can subscribe to
> and receive notification for Events.
> * Events can be searched and listed by category or date
>
> * User profiles: visibility private and public, relations to other users
> (block profile, buddy)
> * Integrated forum
> * Blog linked to the Events as review
>
>
> In TYPO3 my take would be tt_news, the cal extension for events and the
> mm_forum which I haven't tried yet but which seems to be very powerful.
>
> I see problems arising with the relationship between user profiles which
> I haven't seen on a TYPO3 site yet
> Also I have never seen an implementation of the subscription feature of
> the cal apart from a description in the manual.
>
> Personally I feel like having to make a decision whether I prefer
> banging my head against some of the biggest TYPO3 extensions or learn a
> new CMS from scratch ...


I'm in a similar position.
As the descision for my project already is TYPO3 I searched for
extensions and found these:
seminars (instead of cal)
maybe in connection with a FE-Edit-extension
cwt_community (only community-extension until now)
mm_forum

commenting on the seminars possibly could be done with 'comments'

I haven't implemented it yet. 'til now it is a plan. I don't know wether
these extension will fullfill the requirements as I don't know them yet.

bernd
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Alt 19.08.2008, 10:22
Thomas Meixner
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Hi Bernd,

Thanks for pointing out the community extensions. That seems like a real
useful extension. Seminars I'm not too sure yet since no calendar is
build in. But it does 90% and extras from what I imagined.
From reading the manuals I don't see a way to have public and private
profiles for users yet.

I'm still 50/50 divided which route to take...

I found another page which implements a private profile in drupal:

http://www.iwanttospeak.net

Anyone some reference pages in TYPO3?

bernd wilke wrote:
>
> I'm in a similar position.
> As the descision for my project already is TYPO3 I searched for
> extensions and found these:
> seminars (instead of cal)
> maybe in connection with a FE-Edit-extension
> cwt_community (only community-extension until now)
> mm_forum
>
> commenting on the seminars possibly could be done with 'comments'
>
> I haven't implemented it yet. 'til now it is a plan. I don't know wether
> these extension will fullfill the requirements as I don't know them yet.
>
> bernd

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Alt 19.08.2008, 13:59
bernd wilke
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on Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:22:11 +0200, Thomas Meixner wrote:

> Hi Bernd,
>
> Thanks for pointing out the community extensions. That seems like a real
> useful extension. Seminars I'm not too sure yet since no calendar is
> build in. But it does 90% and extras from what I imagined.


there is a gateway from seminars to cal:
see manual of extension 'cal_ts_service'

> From reading the manuals I don't see a way to have public and private
> profiles for users yet.
>
> I'm still 50/50 divided which route to take...


nobody can decide for you.

I would suggest: give TYPO3 a try and invest in it making TYPO3 a little
bit more able to handle communities. e.g. enhance cwt-community for
privat/public profiles (or sponser the author for it)

> I found another page which implements a private profile in drupal:
>
> http://www.iwanttospeak.net
>
> Anyone some reference pages in TYPO3?
>

no, but a can imagine a possible solution:
enhance the fe_user-record by a field the user can change:
visibility: none, buddies, community, public

then enhance the query for the userlist like:
$query='select * from fe_users where visibilty = public';
if (fe_user is logged in) {
$query.=' or visibilty = community';
$query.=' or (visibilty = buddies and '.fe_user[uid].' in
(buddylist))';
}
or make it more complicated: give a full list of names and decide on
every profile wether the link to the profile is activ (don't forget to
ask the same on showing the profile itself otherwise you have a security-
hole by 'guessing' the link)

bernd
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